Cannot get to my regions... and not the typical issue

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  • Eryn Galen
    Eryn Galen
     Moderator CreativeGroup
    Hi Jardel, try logging into the main Metro region *Metropolis* and see if your inventory loads there. If not, try another viewer - preferably a fresh install. If both does not work and you still see your inventory inacessible, please get back here and write to Lena. I fear then its pointing to a possible scramble in the database that only the admins can fix it. But if either works, then we still have options.
  • Sheera Khan
    Sheera Khan
     Moderator
    well, it's a shot into the dark: could you please try while being logged out:
    1) Take a look at the list of avatars online. Does your name show up there? (It can take a moment to be off the list though...)
    https://metropolis.hypergrid.org/online-user.php
    2) Clean up possible inventory messups with the inventory-tool from Metropolis:
    https://metropolis.hypergrid.org/inventory.php
    Please please please wait until your inventory in the folder "My Inventory" is fully loaded.
    3) Reset avatar appearence:
    https://metropolis.hypergrid.org/avatarreset.php
    Together with the clear cache from above it should rule out the inventory system as a possible source of problems.

    Good luck and keep us in the loop :-)

    Sheera





  • JardelGreggan
    JardelGreggan
     Member
    Good people! Thank you all for the kind help you gave me, they were all very valuable, I'm delighted - Lena, Sheera and Eryn, thank you very much to all of you. I was losing hope, because I was about to lose 4 beautiful regions of 512x512. I solved the problem by doing the following: Due to one of you (Lena), I ran smoothly into the grid sandbox and as my avatar was normal and I had just cleared the singularity cache, accessed my inventory, and changed all my clothes Getting only pants. I took a land from one of my regions and BINGO ............... I managed to go to one of my regions and it seems to me now everything OK
  • John Sheppard
    John Sheppard
     Member
    I think, it was a temporary problem. Could you try it again, please?
    Tried again, but I need to check the systemip in my folder first. I am running a Sim-on-a-stick standalone and a Outworldz installation. I also have a static ip, or at least I think I do. 
  • Mareta Dagostino
    Mareta Dagostino
     Member
    Hi John,

    maybe only your post is unclear, but with "running a Sim-on-a-stick standalone and a Outworldz installation" it is simply not possible to connect with Metro grid. You need the so called "grid mode", which is near the bottom of OpenSim.ini (in normal OpenSim), either with or without Hypergrid:
    [Architecture]
      ; Include-Architecture = "config-include/Grid.ini"
      Include-Architecture = "config-include/GridHypergrid.ini"
    
    And then not an Outworldz configuration but a Metropolis configuration is necessary, see the example config in the "Metropolis edition" binary download or there:
    https://hyperweb.eu/OpenSim_0.8/GridCommonIni_en?setlang=en

    Probably I simply misunderstood your posting, but it's much easier to suggest some tests if your setup is known by the forum readers.

    Kind regards,
    Mareta
  • Mareta Dagostino
    Mareta Dagostino
     Member
    One idea for a test case:

    Examine your actual real external IP address, which is temporary given to you by the provider:
    http://ip-lookup.net/  (see "WAN" and use only the IPv4 address)

    Add this temporarily into the Regions.ini instead of "SYSTEMIP". Example:
    [MyTestRegion]
    ...
    ExternalHostName = "12.13.14.15"  ; the external WAN address
    If the error then is (temporarily) solved, you have problems with dynamic DNS. One idea in this case could be using a DynDNS provider. Then one can add the name of the given subdomain instead of the ip:
    [MyTestRegion]
    ...
    ExternalHostName = "MyTestSubdomain.hopto.org" ; an example only
  • Lena Vanilli
    Lena Vanilli
     Administrator edited July 28
    Oh, sim-on-a-stick! Now the things are getting a bit clearer. I agree with all @Mareta Dagostino  said. And there is another problem with "sim-on-a-stick": it seems, that there are some (or all?) sticks with the same avatar-uuid and/or regions-uuid around. :(
    Thanked by: John Sheppard
  • John Sheppard
    John Sheppard
     Member
    I meant that they both run just fine and people can get to and from those two grids. Same network, same DynDNS. (Coyotecave.net) 

    I am puzzled by all the ports in the Metropolis installation instructions... 8001-8003, plus 9000 plus 9051 onwards. Is it necessary to open all those? Outworldz runs on 8001-8004, and the sim on a stick runs on 9000. 

    Re: the Network IP... it's pretty much the same. I think we pay to have a static. My network admin (my spouse) runs a updater for the DynDNS we have... and pay for.
  • Mareta Dagostino
    Mareta Dagostino
     Member edited July 28
    Probably you can give the "Metropolis edition" of OpenSim a try to narrow down the guessing what you have installed? That version also is the best known amongst the readers here, which makes help easier.
    https://hypergrid.org/metropolis/wiki/en/index.php?title=Downloads#Simulator_Software

    What ports you need for the Metropolis grid:

    1) In the direction from outwards to your computer you need
    => 9000 TCP (or whatever you have chosen in OpenSim.ini, you may start with the default 9000)
    => One unique TCP and UDP port for each region, you may start with 9051 or whatever. (I mean the same port for TCP and UDP, but for each region another port.)

    2) In the direction from your computer to outwards you need the standard ports (HTTP/HTTPS, DNS and so on) and the following special ports:
    => 8000 - 8006 TCP
    => Any other TCP port which may have other regions chosen, from where you want to accept teleports. I open all ports from 9000 upwards.

    Hint: Most operating system configurations have all ports open in the direction from inside to outwards, in that case there is no need to open the ports mentioned in 2) explicitly.
  • Sheera Khan
    Sheera Khan
     Moderator
    Hi John,

    SoaS and Outworldz are standalones or mini-grids of their own. All of their services run on your computer so a lot of the communication runs internally and thus only few ports to the world are needed. If you install the MetroEdition (or OSGrid) you need to open several ports for the grid services you use because those services no longer run on your computer.

    Ciaoo

    Sheera
  • John Sheppard
    John Sheppard
     Member
    This install with the issues is the Metropolis download.

     I have tried both the old version I had with regions Draco, Lantea and Lake Country. Same error on both the old version and a brand new version with just one sim.

    Both give me 'invalid port'.

    Now I rebooted my router today hoping that would fix issues. It didn't and I have since deleted the single sim version.

    I know my sys admin, and he's going to have fits about all those ports open for one grid.
  • Mareta Dagostino
    Mareta Dagostino
     Member edited July 29
    Please test only with the "old version" metropolis-os_083_DEV_PLUS [018],  as the "brand new" you found on the Metro website could only be the Metrotest nightly build versions. These ones are test objects themselves and may work fine or poor, nobody knows before testing them. If you search errors on your environment, you should use as much parts as possible known to work good (on other systems).

    Another idea: Install that metropolis-os_083_DEV_PLUS [018] with only one new region, not with the existing regions. If you have solved the port problems with that most simple setup, afterwards it is a good choice to test more sophisticated setups step by step.

    You have not written how you included these "existing" regions Draco, Lantea and Lake Country. The only possible way to include regions from a foreign grid is:
    1) Create a new empty region.
    2) Do an OAR import (load) of the content.
    If you try some database import approach this will fail, as the necessary database content differs between different grids or standalones.



  • John Sheppard
    John Sheppard
     Member
    Mareta, 

    Those regions were previously self-hosted, connected to Metropolis. I've been doing this since about 2012, 2013 with Metropolis, osgrid before that. What I mean is, they were Metropolis regions I hosted on my computer.

    I thought the version I downloaded was the 'production' not nightly build, and I did try with just one region.. Draco2. I got the exact same error.

    I will try again, hopefully with the correct version. 
  • John Sheppard
    John Sheppard
     Member
    Just tried it. It did not work. Same error. Oh well guess I cannot self-host anymore with metro. 
  • Mareta Dagostino
    Mareta Dagostino
     Member edited July 31
    Well, maybe your provider has changed something. For example I have "Kabel Deutschland" who changed to IPv6 some years ago, since then I cannot self host OpenSim from home. Others report problems with their routers, see there: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/NAT_Loopback_Routers

    For this reason it is so important to start with a setup as simple and standard as possible, otherwise there are too many possible problems at the same time. Normally on a standard infrastructure, in a metropolis-os_083_DEV_PLUS [018] you need to change only a few lines (see comments in the top of the files) of OpenSim.ini and GridCommon.ini, then a simple empty flat region must come up after the first start. (...after one has answered a few questions in the OpenSim console like estate owner, location of the region and so on...)

    Unfortunately I'm not a network specialist. My router configuration is as simple as possible: All ports open, the security I do in the firewalls of the operating systems. But I have an easy situation at home, as only real computers are connected and no "home network" with external disks over ethernet or network of attackable Things.

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